Monday, December 6, 2010

War on Affordable Housing

While America wages many UN-Constitutional "wars", this one appears to be waged by government bureaucracy, through which the unlimited and unaccountable State exerts its power in setting unreasonable and arbitrary restrictions and fines, under the guise of "public safety".

My story in brief:

An anonymous complaint has landed long-time Montford (Asheville) homeowner, Bernard Carman, in hot water with the City of Asheville. He now faces possible fines and foreclosure on his historic home of 22 years. Although his home use has not changed since 1988, the city has determined that Carman's home is out of compliance with City and State housing regulations, which prohibit him from housing 8 unrelated occupants in his 8-bedroom home. In order to comply, Bernard was forced to either upgrade the century-old home to meet "NC Commercial Code" (which as of 2006 now includes a cost-prohibitive sprinkler system), or evict three people and leave the rooms empty. Bernard opted for the latter, which is the lesser of two financially damaging options.

Dr. Dan's Freedom Forum featured this issue in detail, but due to a technical problem, the show was not recorded.  8-(

If you don't think this war is coming to a City/State near you, think again.

in liberty (wherever it's permitted),


bernard baruch carman
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Monday, November 15, 2010

government unaccountability... what can i do about it?

in regards to the comical/tragical and factual video i recently shared about government unaccountability:
one friend replied:  "hey thanks for that video you sent me, but what can we do about it?"

i'm very thankful she asked, and i thought i'd likewise share my thoughts on the subject with everyone...

perhaps the most important thing we can all do is to better educate ourselves about this and other Constitutional violations perpetrated by none other than our very own government.  then we can share this knowledge with our friends & family, urging them to do likewise, while reminding them that neither duopoly party is going to work toward a remedy for these violations, as repeatedly exemplified by their own actions over the course of American history.

we could also ask these status-quo-representatives — whose salary and various benefits we pay, through which supposedly make them our "public servant representatives" — why they have not done all they can do to stop this particular theft of the American People by the Federal Government and the Federal (not government) Reserve.  did they help Ron Paul in supporting the "Audit the FED" bill?  if not, why?

during the primary elections (specifically), we could only support those candidates for US Congress and US President who support auditing and/or ending the Federal Reserve, and urge everyone we know to do likewise.

more drastic, but a growing movement:

We the People of the United State of America can legally STOP financially supporting a corrupted government which continues to violate the US Constitution, and refuses to cease and desist from doing so.

if enough Americans can spend a couple hours wrapping their minds around the fundamental principle of the Accountability Clause (the last ten words of the First Amendment) — that we have the right to peacefully hold the US Government accountable for its violations by refusing to fund it, when it refuses to remedy such violations upon repeated notifications through the petitioning process — the People could continue building a massive coalition of Americans that can peacefully force government to provide such remedy.

to give a brief recap of this:  within an act of the 1774 Continental Congress regarding Petitioning for Redress of Grievances (aka: First Amendment "Accountability Clause"), the founding fathers said:

"If money is wanted by Rulers who have in any manner oppressed the People, [the People] may retain [their money] until their grievances are redressed, and thus peaceably procure relief, without trusting to despised petitions or disturbing the public tranquility."

founders' advice:  No Redress, NO TAXES!

over the past decade, petitions for remedy of various and continued Constitutional violations have been served upon the US Government by We the People, and they have thus far all been ignored.  the US Government says that it is not required by law to respond in any way to such petitions for redress (remedy) of grievances, as stated in the First Amendment.

as perhaps the most blatant display of tyranny i have personally seen demonstrated by the American government in my short life of 45 years, is the refusal by the US Supreme Court to even legally define the last ten words of the First Amendment, thus leaving the entire matter in a state of limbo:

1. We the People claim that the First Amendment Accountability Clause means we have the right to follow the advise of the founders who actually penned the clause.

2. the US Federal Government says the People do not have such a right.

3. SCOTUS refuses to make a ruling, declaring the meaning of the last ten words of the First Amendment.

so then, where does that leave We the People in this supposed "land of the free"?  when all three branches of government refuse to act responsibly in their duties of which they even swore an oath to uphold, then how could We the People correctly conclude that we live in any kind of free society under rule of law?

under such a state of tyranny, it is difficult to know what exactly i can individually do.  my only conclusion is to strive to stand up for liberty whenever opportunities arise.  if i don't, i reason i'm responsible for the increase of tyranny to whatever degree i could have otherwise perhaps prevented it.

knowing we have such an incredible asset like the internet at our disposal, i feel compelled to consider:

• what if millions more Americans understood the weight of such Constitutional violations — the Federal Reserve theft of We the People's treasury along with other grievances?

• what if millions more Americans understood that by the letter of the law according to our founding documents we have the right to peacefully demand Limited and Accountable government?

• what if we all strive to educate millions more Americans to these truths?

what great things may happen in our lives and the lives of our children!


bernard baruch carman
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Sunday, October 31, 2010

65% Say Fire Congress!

dear friends & family!

thank you all for the wonderful birthday blessings — your thoughts & prayers have all encouraged me tremendously over the recent weeks.

as you all know, i have this thing for liberty.  and especially right now, with all the ludicrous amounts of money being spent on the elections, i'm trying very hard to not let all this get to me.  i bet we all are, regardless of individual perspectives on things.  i wonder how much of that "$$$" being spent comes directly from the taxpayer...?  i am reminded daily of this as we continue to receive duplicate glossy color printed junk snail-mail containing typical and often erroneous mud-slinging.

therefore, in the "spirit of the season", i thought this was a very timely message worthy of sharing from Tim Cox of "GOOOH" (no, it's not "goo", but GO! — as in, Get Out Of Our House!  GOOOH ).

for those with whom i failed to effectively communicate my rationale behind voting against incumbents (generally), perhaps this might help to clarify it a bit better.

regardless, it makes me happy to hear that there is a majority of American who would like to simply fire Congress!  to me, that's some good news which perhaps might help us endure this "season of extra BS flinging".

in liberty,


bernard baruch carman
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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Tim Cox" <>
Date: October 30, 2010 2:22:58 PM EDT
Subject: 65% Say Fire Congress!

65% Say "Fire Congress!"                                                 October 30, 2010
We encourage everyone to vote on Tuesday and continue working until the last minute for those you support. When the dust settles, I hope you will carefully consider the note below. The real battle begins on Wednesday.
This new Rasmussen poll reports that 65% of our nation would like to replace the entire Congress, including their representative. We are likely to see a bigger turnover than we have seen in years on Tuesday, and that is great news, but recognize that 85 - 90% of all incumbents will once again be re-elected. An image of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic comes to mind. Within a few months it will be politics as usual. We'll have a new budget that is $600 billion in the red and both sides blaming the other for the gridlock that follows. I pray I am wrong but pigs have never flown before.
USA Today estimates FOUR BILLION will be spent on political ads this election, including $32 million on the Senate race in CO, $20 million in PA and $17m in WA? Over $6m is being spent on individual House races in NY, NV, and MI - for jobs that pay $175,000. Look for a record number of earmarks next year as bribes are repaid. Watch for legislation that rewards donors instead of addressing problems.
Yes, the political pendulum will swing back to the right on Tuesday, but have our peers forgotten the past? In 2006 it swung from right to left because of Republican malfeasance, in 2000, from left to right. Back and forth it goes while our nation falls deeper into debt. Left, right, left, right, yet thirty percent of our kids fail to graduate year after year. Underemployment according to Gallup is at 18.6% and unemployment at 10%. Health care costs spiral ever upward. Borders leak like a sieve. Misguided government programs consistently fail.
Yet some still believe politicians will solve the very problems they have created.
The good news is there is an alternative. But it will require work. You must educate others that neither party is the answer, that politicians are the problem. The solution is simple: elect true citizen representatives who are not controlled by a party, indebted to groups who have paid millions of dollars, or concerned about getting re-elected. Our government was created so that every seat in the House is up for re-election every two years, but our nation has fallen into a trap: we are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.
2012 will be different. We will run our candidates in the primaries against the incumbents, but our candidates will not controlled by either party. Our candidates will not have accepted special interest money, nor will they be career politicians.
I challenge you to inform others that we have an alternative. Please send this letter to every person of integrity you know and ask them to get involved. We only need an email address for them to join us. As soon as we get to 500,000 members we will execute our plan, explained in detail at
Inform your friends that GOOOH is not a party. It is a method for the citizens of each district to identify a candidate who will compete in the primaries where possible. We will not split the vote, but instead offer an alternative to career politicians. If you happen to live in one of the few districts with a good candidate, support the system nationally so we can remove the 429 bad ones! If we insist on supporting the few who are good we will be stuck with all who are bad. If your representative is good, he will defeat our candidate in the primary, as he should, but let's create competition and see if we can find someone even better. There are almost 700,000 people in each district and no one person is so important that we should not evaluate others.
I often hear people express concern that GOOOH might allow someone whose views they do not agree with to be selected. That happens today! We all disagree on certain issues. But that completely misses the point. We need a new system to identify quality candidates. Trust that the people of each district will select a qualified candidate. If anyone who has this concern will participate in one of our Online Mock Selection Sessions you will see that those with extreme views and ridiculous quirks are quickly eliminated. With a fair system, we simply need to have faith in our fellow man. The system we have today attracts the wrong kind of people. The two-party system encourages extremists and career politicians. GOOOH will weed them out.
How much longer can our country last if we stay this course? Six hundred billion dollar deficits will not fix what is broken. Tough decisions need to be made, but they will again be deferred because those in office are more concerned about being re-elected than doing what is right. A twelve-year-old child understands you cannot spend more than you make year after year without consequence. Our economy offers all the proof you need that this course is not sustainable.
Do not permit your friends to keep doing what they are doing. Get every one of them to join GOOOH now and ensure we identify men and women who will do what must be done in 2012. If we do not, the greatest nation the world has ever known will soon become just one of many. It will fail under the watch of our generation unless we act.
In Liberty,
Tim Cox

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Thursday, October 28, 2010

my 2010 ballot thoughts

various friends in my locality have been asking me how i plan to vote.  i don't mind sharing at all, so i thought i'd broadcast my 2010 ballot thoughts.

i began this note with the intention of only focusing on the NC/WNC ballot, but then wound up writing a couple thoughts worthy of contemplation which apply wherever you are.

feel at liberty to share this with anyone you wish.

• [YOUR STATE] Constitutional Amendments...

before i get to candidates, i implore you to check your ballot for a possible "State Constitutional Amendment".  if there is one, read it very carefully & think about the potential consequences of it being passed.

for example, on the NC ballot, it's very important to take note of the "[NC] Constitutional Amendment" which, if passed, would prevent anyone who was ever convicted as a felon from being eligible to serve as a Sheriff in NC.

when given the option, the NC legislature thought it was better to put this junk on the NC ballot rather than increasing liberty by legalizing medical marijuana.

one can be charged as a "felon" these days for no telling what... even growing a weed!  and what better Sheriffs could we have than individuals who have been victimized by the unlimited and unaccountable government we have allowed to become so corrupted?

i have to wonder how many people won't even realize the implications of this deceptive NC Constitutional Amendment.  it should be a no brainer, but for the sake of sanity, VOTE AGAINST this increase in tyranny!

• regarding voting for candidates...

in general, i plan to go with my usual rule of thumb election strategy: vote against incumbents whenever possible.  this means, to vote for the duopoly party candidate in a given race who is not currently holding office.


because, for one, it's a way of enforcing term limits.  power corrupts.  therefore, the longer the term, the more chance of increased corruption.  incumbents should thank us for limiting their term, thus reducing their potential or degree of corruption.

also, because it's perhaps the best message We the People can send to our tyrannical government.  the way i see it, we should only re-elect officials who understand and agree with their oath of office that they are supposed to be protecting our individuals rights by maintaining a limited and accountable government through the principles found within the US Constitution.

most of the time we'll be electing another typical bureaucrat, but there's really not much difference between them anyway, and all we have to do is oust their incumbent butt during the following election — that's a message for ya!

and voting straight party ticket is utter foolishness — that's what the establishment of tyranny wants us all to do!  the elitists want to keep Americans divided into Red & Blue camps while they continue to rule over rather than serve US.  so until we have a lot more "Ron Paul" types within government offices at all levels across America, we should try to enforce enforceable term limits.

• on to NC/WNC candidates...
(of course, NC ballots will vary according to location)

of course, there are occasionally exceptions to the vote-against-incumbents rule of thumb, most notably this time, i plan to vote for the only Libertarian Party candidate on my ballot, Michael Beitler for US Senate, rather than voting against incumbent-Burr by casting my vote for Elaine Marshall.  i realize that because we have Plurality Voting (rather than Score/Range Voting) i'll be "wasting my vote", however, i'm finding it too difficult to not support Beitler at this point.

i plan to vote for Jeff Miller for US House of Representatives District 11 because i'm voting against incumbent-Shuler.  perhaps the next go around, we can elect Dr. Dan Eichenbaum in the primary and have a real liberty candidate representing WNC in Congress!

also for RL Clark for NC State Senate District 49 — again, voting against incumbent-Nesbitt.

for John Carroll for NC House of Representatives District 114 — against incumbent-Fisher.

IMPORTANT:  for Bridget Odom for District Attorney District 28 — totally against 20-year-incumbent-Ron Moore!

for John Sutton for Clerk of Superior Court — against incumbent-Cogburn.

for Dickie Green for Buncombe county Sheriff — against incumbent-VanDuncan.

being that i know there to be several liberty minded individuals within the AVL Tea Party, i also seriously consider its recommendations (i think most are also non-incumbent challengers):

there are certainly other candidates on the ballot with whom i'm unfamiliar, so i asked around among my local liberty contacts.

i received the following information from a liberty minded friend of mine in our locality who i met during the Ron Paul campaign and was also very active in the Dr. Dan Eichenbaum campaign:

Regarding my selections, I used several sources, including personal conversations with some of the candidates, recommendations from others whose opinions I trust, researching cases they adjudicated, and the Civitas interviews of the IRV judges which are posted online at Civitas.

Supreme Court: Barbara Jackson (incumbent, currently serving on NC Court of Appeals) - I did original research by reviewing some of the cases she decided in recent years as a NC Appeals Court Judge.  My understanding is that she would have a sympathetic ear if a case were brought before the NC Supreme Court challenging heavily gerrymandered districts in NC, and this could come before the court in 2011, as this is the census year when all NC House, NC Senate, and Congressional districts will be re-drawn.

Court of Appeals: Ann Marie Calabria (incumbent) - also did some research here and didn't find any important or high-profile cases. most of the cases handled by the court of appeals are rather mundane, and are decided 3-0.  however, she is well-respected in the legal community, and has a solid conservative, non-activist judicial record.

Court of Appeals: Steven Walker (non-incumbent challenger) - young guy who hasn't practiced law as a private attorney (which concerned me at first; he clerked for a NC Supreme Court Justice for 5 years).  Then I saw him on Dr. Dan's Freedom Forum and was impressed with his knowledge of the Constitution and maturity (for his young age).

Court of Appeals: Dean Poirier (non-incumbent challenger) - he was recommended by several people.  (bbc notes: and of course he's the non-incumbent challenger!  also, i found him on a Cape Fear Tea Party Patriots site.)

Superior Court Judge (Buncombe County): Alan Thornburg (incumbent) - Thornburg is a moderate* Democrat who is running against liberal* Democrat, Kate Dreher, who according to several sources, was the chief prosecutor under Ron Moore who cut many weak deals with sex offenders and other criminals who hurt children.  It is these deals (plea bargains) that upset Bridgette Odom to the point of running against Ron Moore for D.A.  (*bbc notes: i hate those terms — i'll take it to read that Thornburg is less of an authoritarian tyrant than is Dreher.)

District Court Judge: John Jay Watson (non-incumbent challenger) - He is a conservative (*hate that term too! 8-), and a home school dad.  He is also in private practice, never been a judge before, which I like.  (bbc notes: and a non-incumbent challenger.)

District Court Judge: Moorefield (non-incumbent challenger) - no info here, other than voting against incumbent-Patricia Young, who is apparently occasionally called "Patty Melt" because she "melts down" in court.

Court of Appeals — IRV**:  
1st - Daniel Garner - home school dad of 11 kids, honors NC & US Constitutions, wants to stop judicial activism on the left AND the right.  didn't take any public funds to run his campaign, on principle.  has an MBA in addition to his law degree.  has been in private practice, worked as an appeals referee for the Employment Security Commission, and legal advisor to the NC Commissioner of Banking.  very impressive guy.
2nd - Chris Dillon - also impressive, understands the Constitution.
3rd - Doug McCullough - solid conservative*.  he is the firewall to stop a liberal* Democrat.  (bbc notes: again, hate the terms — i'll read that as "classic conservative" and "contemporary liberal".)

Superior Court Judge (Buncombe County) — IRV**:
1st - Marvin Pope - conservative Democrat (non-incumbent for this seat, but has been a District Court Judge for a long time).  has endorsement of Bob Orr, well-respected retired NC Supreme Court Justice.  He lost the other Superior Court race in the primary to Thornburg and Dreher, but this seat became available with the late retirement of Judge Winner, making this an IRV race.

**bbc notes: why Score/Range Voting is better than IRV (Instant Runoff Voting).

that's all folks!


bernard baruch carman
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Friday, October 8, 2010

Time Magazine Exemplifies Anti-Liberty Mainstream Media Deception

hey folks,

OK, there are certainly a few things that piss me off, deliberate & blatant deception by a major "journalism" magazine like Time is certainly one of these.

those of you who have known me for some time, know that i have been a proponent of the We the People Foundation & Congress, chaired by Bob Schulz, since around the year 2000.

this group of American patriots -- especially Bob, himself -- have spent their efforts in bringing the "Forgotten Clause" of the First Amendment, the "Accountability Clause", to the attention of the tyrants who have been transgressing various Constitutional limitations placed upon the government, and ignoring the fact that the founding fathers created and documented a legal process by which the People of America might peacefully procure relief of such grievances.

after a long process of petitioning for remedy of various documented grievances which have gone ignored by the poli-tyrants, the US Supreme Court was finally challenged to define, once and for all, the meaning of the near-forgotten "Accountability Clause", those last 10 words of the First Amendment -- of course, it failed to do its Constitutional duty, proving to myself and many others that we are definitely living in a state of tyranny.

whomever has been paying attention to all this, or even paying attention to what has been happening over the past century or so, who still honestly believes we live in the "land of the free" is really seriously deceived.

sure, we have some various freedoms, but just try and exercise them!  try standing up to the tyrannical State when it makes decisions about the personal life of the individual -- extortion in the name of "taxation", forced annexation, transgression of individual property rights, etc...

so now i discover that Time magazine has deliberately misrepresented Bob Schulz' We the People Foundation & Congress, equating our various non-violent & legal efforts to the growing militia movement -- nothing could be further from the truth!  so now, all those reading this slanderous and deceptive article in Time will now believe the We the People movement is filled with a bunch of violent nut-balls!

of course, i see this as a continuous attempt of these anti-liberty workers of evil to drive liberty activists and apologists to the point where we are forced to take a defensive physical position, so that they can blame the entire liberty movement of being "violent" in order to enact total and complete martial law... and no doubt the masses of idiots will buy it!

i seriously hope that Bob can bring a law suit against these deceivers, but i'm not holding my breath.  i realize, as do many, how corrupted the judicial system has grown (along with the other two branches of government).

so all i can do is to continue to point to the deceivers and say, "LOOK PEOPLE -- WAKE UP ALREADY!!!"

if you have a moment, please read the article and Bob's response, and open your eyes to see for yourself the state of this nation.

in liberty & Godbless...


bernard baruch carman
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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Bob Schulz \(DO NOT REPLY - Unmonitored Mailbox\)" <>
Date: October 7, 2010 2:44:53 AM EDT

October 6, 2010


WTP Chairman Bob Schulz is featured in the cover story of the Oct. 11, 2010 issue of TIME magazine titled, ""Locked and Loaded: The Secret World of Extreme Militias." 

The TIME article is volatile and highly misleading.

What follows is Bob's response. Please send it to as many people as you can. Thank you. 

Links to the TIME article and an online interview w/ Bob Schulz are at the bottom of this update.

Dear Editor:

I am featured in your cover article, written by Barton Gellman, though I cannot understand why.  You have wholly mischaracterized me and the works of my Foundation, in order to shoehorn me into a piece that may work for TIME, but has no relevance to what Gellman and I discussed. The information I provided to Gellman, through more than six hours of face-to-face interviews, plus e-mails and written documentation, has been twisted and wholly taken out of context, rendering it inaccurate, misleading and libelous.

There are so many falsehoods in what was attributed to me that I cannot address them all in this letter. I will take them up with TIME management. 

For the record, I have never advocated violence, I do not and have never belonged to any militia, nor do I communicate with militias or influence militias in any way that I am aware of.  However, I do fully support the Constitution's guarantee of well-regulated militias in every State. To quote the mandate of the second Amendment, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Therefore, the absence of well-regulated Militias in every State is repugnant to the constitution. 

This article serves neither the truth nor the People of this nation. While it wastes thousands of words regurgitating the intricate details of militia activities, their confrontations with government officials, and a handful of blatantly criminal acts, the article fails to address the fundamental "secret" re-invigorating the Patriot consciousness of Americans across the land. 

The "secret" that the mainstream media appears to have an extreme aversion against putting forward or openly discussing, is that over many administrations, with the support of both Parties, the federal government has all but abandoned our Constitution.


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Saturday, October 2, 2010

Most Important Election Cycle Ever!

gee, i never heard that before!  8-)

i've pretty much thus far seen my share of e-messages promoting voting for "Republicans" in order to get the "Democrats" out of office.

but i cannot find such optimism for any political party, as do so many others.  i'd much prefer to vote against incumbents.

YEP!  i've reached the point where i'm entirely up for throwing out pretty much everyone currently in office.  D or R doesn't make much difference to me.  along with "liberal" & "conservative", i understand these labels as nothing more than tools of deception designed to divide and enslave people.

i view voting a straight ticket as playing perfectly into this deception, as the pendulum continues to swing back and forth as it has for the majority of America's existence, while our Creator-given liberties simultaneously continue to be usurped.

seems to me, if the unaffiliated/apathetic majority in America would take a cue from the GOOOH strategy, we could remove the elite class from ruling the rest of us.  not that we have any probable chance of "fixing" things, but we could at least perhaps send tyrants packing all across America and at all levels of government.

otherwise we're just swapping one tyrant for another tyrant.  unless, of course, the new replacement is truly a real Constitutionalist who will actually work toward establishing Constitutionally Limited & Accountable government.

however, i have to wonder just how many candidates (especially "Republican") this election cycle are typical poli-tyrants wrapped in a Tea Party disguise, feigning a passion for liberty.

NOPE!  i'm not falling into this popular deception -- i'm going to vote against (most all) incumbents!  i hope other American voters think first before continuing to vote along political party lines, and rather seek out and support real liberty candidates.


bernard baruch carman
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Thursday, September 9, 2010

Evil for Evil?

Terry Jones, the pastor at Dove World Outreach Center church has declared Sept. 11 as "International Burn a Quran Day," and added that he hoped the burning of the Muslim religion's holy text "will be as it is intended, as a warning." I think we need more of these pastors during the same thing as the Muslims burn the bible of the christians.

since i first heard about this over the past couple of weeks, a Biblical precept came to mind.  here are a couple scriptures to consider:

Psalms 54:
 4 Behold, God is my helper; The Lord is with those who uphold my life.
 5 He will repay my enemies for their evil. Cut them off in Your truth.

Romans 12:
 17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men.
 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.
 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord.
 20 Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head."
 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

i personally can not imagine any kind of good would come as a result of attempting to turn 9/11 into an "International Burn a Quran Day".

while i understand that individuals and government (both church and state) now commonly ignore their own laws and principles, some questions fill my mind:  what about the Christian principle Messiah gave to turn the other cheek?  has it been replaced with, "you hit me, so i'll hit you back?"

while i don't condone it, i support the right of individuals to burn things as a sign of protest: flags, books, and yes, albums.  so i'm not suggesting Congress convene to pass any more un-Constitutional legislation which violates our unalienable rights & liberty.

i am just moved to ask proponents of this "International Burn a Quran Day" idea to consider for themselves why they think it's wise to ignore the Biblical principle which plainly teaches to not repay evil for evil...?

the verse, "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good," also brings to mind the phrase, "you are what you do".  those who plan to take part in this event might want to consider what fruits they are planning to bear.


bernard baruch carman
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